I found myself speaking to Jay Cover at the SPUR launch night in November. We had an insightful conversation on why we do what we do, and national progression led to a visit to his studio with Francesca. Although our disciplines are far from similar, it was important to me to talk to him about where he is at this point in his life and how he got to it. Our principles are similar and it was a positive experience that I needed to remind me that the world is not the studio.